Dave:
When you’re watching stock climb proper now, it could appear to be provide is surging. However an enormous half of what’s hitting the market shouldn’t be actually new provide. It’s houses that attempted to promote final yr, received pulled, and are coming again as re-listings. And it is a actually new phenomenon in stock dynamics that actually adjustments how you need to be fascinated by market dynamics. I’m Dave Meyer, and as we speak I’m joined by Mike Simonsen to interrupt down this re-listing development, why it’s taking place, the right way to separate re-listings from new listings, and what it tells us about vendor conduct, purchaser demand, and worth pressures as we head into the spring market. We’re additionally gonna dig into why stock can rise with out sending costs decrease, how pending gross sales can enhance on the similar time, and what buyers ought to do with this data within the subsequent few months. That is On The Market.
Let’s get into it. Mike, welcome again to On the Market. Thanks for becoming a member of us once more.
Mike:
Dave, it’s all the time nice to be right here.
Dave:
Properly, we’re excited to have you ever right here. I used to be fascinated by writing an episode to speak about de- listings and re-listings, and, you understand, I figured why not simply have the stock grasp himself come be part of us. So we’re excited to, to listen to from you. So it looks as if this, this development that we’re seeing with numerous attention-grabbing motion in stock type of began within the fall with de- listings, proper? Are you able to perhaps simply give us some background on what’s occurring there?
Mike:
Yeah. So the housing market stayed gradual for 4 years now. And when you’re a vendor attempting to get a suggestion for your home and, and when you don’t get the, the worth you need, you may minimize the worth or you may pull the home off the market and check out once more, look forward to higher situations. Each of these issues have been taking place final yr. Each of these issues have been taking place at a, at an elevated tempo. So probably the most of any, you understand, current years. And so which means such as you minimize your worth and perhaps you get the provide and you then transfer it, however when you don’t need to promote, the choice is wish to withdraw or de- checklist or let it expire. And, and there’s any variety of ways in which that occurs. You recognize, so we watch that. And one solution to, to trace that’s not simply in a complete variety of these, but additionally as a share of the brand new listings.
So like, what % of the people who find themselves itemizing now finally withdraw-
Dave:
Oh, attention-grabbing. …
Mike:
Is an attention-grabbing manner to consider it, proper? Yeah. So it’s, if there’s extra houses in the marketplace, there’s gonna be extra withdrawals, there’s gonna be extra gross sales and what, you understand, like all of the numbers can be greater. So doing it as a share of latest listings is an attention-grabbing manner to take a look at it.
Dave:
So what did you discover? I imply, I, I’m, I’m curious as a result of yeah, like in fact if extra issues are being listed on the market, there’s in all probability extra de- listings, however proportionally, what was occurring?
Mike:
So proportionally, you get a number of issues. You get, uh, you get a type of a canoe form within the yr, uh, the place de- listings climb over the vacations after which fall once more within the spring, you get contemporary new stock and also you get new consumers. And so that you’re not withdrawing over the spring, however then if the, the yr progresses and also you don’t have a purchaser, now you begin fascinated by it. And so it’s quite common to have extra withdrawals over the vacations. As a share of latest listings although, final yr might need been 35 or 40% within the third quarter. So 30, 35% of these new listings are finally getting annoyed. And that compares to love 25% the yr before- Okay. … which, which compares to perhaps 20%, you understand, each- Yeah. … yr or longer in a gradual market, you see extra people who find themselves getting annoyed.
Over the vacations, that may usually drop to 50% or s- you understand, final yr, 24 was 60%, and in December of 25, we counted 80%- Oh, whoa. … uh, in that. Oh my God. Actually dramatic. Like a elevated variety of de- listings. In order that’s as a share of the brand new listings. January dipped again right down to 44%, so dips down, uh, and can fall February or fall decrease once more in March, April would be the lowest months, after which, and you then get slightly, uh, elevation within the spring. In order that’s the de- itemizing. Okay. So de- itemizing is unquestionably elevated, hasn’t resumed again right down to the very regular, you understand, the extra regular ranges, prefer it’s nonetheless elevated. All of these items are in place now. Okay. Uh, it actually kicked in final yr.
Dave:
De-listing’s in all probability not an indication of a wholesome market, proper? Prefer it displays some imbalance between purchaser demand and, and provide on the market, proper, or pricing, uh, mismatches. However the, the factor I saved fascinated by, it was like, it additionally, perhaps it displays well being in dwelling sellers, that the truth that they’re able to pull their property off the market moderately than persevering with to slash costs, or not less than that’s what I used to be considering, like there’s not e- that is higher than compelled promoting, which is type of the opposite possibility, proper?
Mike:
Uh, I feel that’s precisely what it displays. In different phrases, virtually all people within the nation s- nonetheless has one of the best mortgage terms-
Dave:
Sure.
Mike:
… ever within the historical past of mankind. And so for these of us, in the event that they don’t get the provide, one possibility is to promote by no means. It’s tremendous low cost to carry the home.
Yep. Um, every day, that be- there’s fewer and fewer of these of us. A few of these folks, you understand, these offers transition. There are extra individuals who have costly mortgages, and in order that possibility fades slightly bit each day. Uh, however there’s nonetheless numerous them. Mm-hmm. And on the similar time, there are of us, even when you don’t have an inexpensive mortgage, like let’s say to procure in 2023, you continue to have your job, unemployment’s low, and so you might wish to transfer, however end up with actually no worth appreciation over the previous few years, or perhaps destructive when you purchased on the peak in Austin or one thing like that. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And now it’s, you understand, it’s painful to take that loss. It’s. So that you say, “Properly, I’m gonna attempt to do it at a, at a acquire, however I can’t, and so I’m gonna wait.” So it is also a mirrored image of the truth that principally all people’s nonetheless employed.
Yeah. You recognize, unemployment remains to be low. So there isn’t drive promoting on that facet actually both, but within the cycle. Possibly that comes, nevertheless it hasn’t come but.
Dave:
Proper. After all this could change. Like if unemployment shoots up, one thing will change, proper? It, it should, however there’s no proof of that simply but. I feel, you understand, whenever you hear these concepts that there’s gonna be huge foreselling or foreclosures disaster, that’s hypothesis. I’m by no means gonna say it may by no means occur, however it’s hypothesis at this level, not, probably not proof. We gotta take a fast break, everybody, however we’ll be proper again with Mike Simonsen. Welcome again to On the Market. Let’s bounce again in with Mike Simonsen. So, Mike, you alluded to type of the flip facet of this although. I keep in mind studying one thing you, you wrote speaking about de- listings and saying, like, perhaps what occurs within the spring? Are all of them gonna be relisted or are these completely coming again? So perhaps replace us on the re-listing development now.
Mike:
Yeah. So I feel, you understand, it is rather straightforward to take a look at the, the, the de- listings of final yr purely as provide for this yr, like provide that wishes to occur. These are dwelling sellers that wish to promote. Subsequently, if they arrive again in the marketplace, there may very well be a flood of stock, uh, that, uh, of those of us who clearly tried to promote however couldn’t promote. And in order that’s the intuitive take, proper? Wow, there’s numerous de- listings. If they arrive again, then there’s numerous promoting. There’s numerous listings and, and there’d be numerous energetic stock, and perhaps that has subsequently, uh, destructive worth implications, proper? Extra provide. My statement in, in, within the Compass information, we dove in and appeared and, uh, did some, some analysis of, like, who’re the D-listers?
Dave:
Mm-hmm.
Mike:
And it seems that almost all of them are- Flippers? Proprietor-occupiers.
Dave:
Oh, actually? Okay. I believed it was gonna be all flippers. That’s tremendous
Mike:
Attention-grabbing. So most of them aren’t buyers or flippers.
Dave:
Attention-grabbing.
Mike:
Okay. Most of them are owner-occupiers, and that signifies that these are literally delayed demand- mm-hmm. … in addition to delayed provide. Yeah. So these are of us who wanna transfer up or wanna transfer down, however they’ve delayed it as a result of they, the situations aren’t proper. So if situations enhance or as situations enhance, you could possibly have a look at these and see that almost all of them are owner-occupiers, most of them are two transactions that wanna occur. And so there may be shadow demand there as nicely. Now there’s, there are some investor flippers. There are some of us like, you understand, in among the second dwelling markets of Florida, the place perhaps these aren’t two transactions. These are folks like, “I simply wanna unload this factor.” And to that extent, these can be, these would add to produce. However-
Dave:
Yeah.
Mike:
… in our evaluation, many of the of us we see, as a result of de- itemizing, it’s not simply taking place in Florida, it’s all over the place.
Dave:
Yeah. Okay. That was type of my subsequent query is, like, it’s simply ubiquitous.
Mike:
It’s, you understand, is by our measurement and after I get to speak to brokers throughout the nation, they’re all, you understand, “Properly, I had a vendor, he tried, and, you understand, it’s in all probability overpriced, however the, the, you understand, he’s gonna wait and check out once more.” That’s tremendous widespread.
Dave:
Yeah. I’m wondering what occurs with transaction quantity within the subsequent couple of months as a result of I, I feel in some unspecified time in the future folks simply have to appreciate, like, charges are in all probability not happening that a lot this yr and, like, perhaps, you understand, we’ll get, you understand, type of a proportionate rise in provide and demand on the similar time and hopefully kick us again up from that dismal, uh, dwelling gross sales
Mike:
Properly, uh, so in, in our information, within the weekly information, we don’t see almost as dip, uh, as NAR reported. I’m suspect of the seasonal adjustment they did. I, I can’t discover that. I can’t discover a huge dip within the information anyplace.
Dave:
Okay.
Mike:
So I didn’t see it. Possibly, perhaps timing of the snowstorm and there, perhaps there was some finish of month closings- Yeah. … that didn’t occur within the NAR information. I don’t, I don’t know the place it got here in, however man, I couldn’t discover it in, in any of the, the actual time. Uh, you understand, uh, December, the pendings in December slowed, and so, you understand, not nice enchancment in endomen, however, like, we’re measuring a number of % each week, uh, higher, usually higher than, than a yr in the past.
Dave:
I’m optimistic. I, I simply really feel like, you understand, I noticed this seller report that got here out the opposite day that mentioned the typical mortgage fee now could be 8.4% lower- Yeah. … than it was a yr in the past. And I simply gotta imagine it’s, you understand, we’re nonetheless not nice affordability, however any enchancment in affordability has gotta assist get these pendings and the transaction quantity up slightly bit, proper?
Mike:
Sure. I, I agree. It’s, yeah, it’s 8% cheaper now, and each greenback makes a number of extra folks, places a number of extra folks out there. Mm-hmm. And so, sure, I feel that’s, that’s the case. We, you understand, the one week we noticed dip that final week with the deep freeze under yr over yr. However right here’s the factor, you understand, my assumption and my speculation in regards to the, the de- listings relistings is that these are actually two transactions that wanna occur. And proper now, we are able to see the relistings and there are 75,000 single household houses that are actually relisted. They have been pulled final fall they usually’re relisted again in the marketplace now. It’s like 11% of the energetic stock.
Dave:
It’s rather a lot. Yeah.
Mike:
It’s larger than final yr, proper? They’re coming again in the marketplace now. But when they arrive again on and the, the pendings don’t climb, or if they arrive again on and stock expands- mm-hmm. … that may disprove my speculation, proper? That will simply say that these are folks, that is solely provide that wishes to come back in the marketplace. You recognize, if there’s 75,000 folks, like, if stock is rising by 75,000, uh, as a result of these are all relisted, that’s a factor I’m in search of. Mm-hmm. What we’re seeing although is that energetic stock is definitely, it’s not but under final yr presently, however in Florida, it’s under. There are fewer houses on the market in Florida now than final yr presently. Actually? And I feel- That
Dave:
Is shocking.
Mike:
… virtually no person is conscious of this, proper? Yeah. And also you, when you ask anyone, they’d assume stock in Florida is increasing.
Dave:
Yeah. Like one factor that I’ve been monitoring is what you’d anticipate in a traditional correction, proper, is that within the markets the place costs are declining and their softness, new itemizing information is declining the quickest, proper? Like, aga- one other signal that folks simply have the choice to not promote and in markets like Florida, they’re simply selecting to not.
Mike:
Yeah. However, you understand, we now have gross sales up 8% within the pen to weekly pending information. Gross sales are up 8% yr over yr in Florida. Oh, attention-grabbing. Okay. So there’s extra gross sales taking place too. There’s extra houses available for purchase. There’s extra transactions that may occur. There are some cut price hunters taking place. Yeah. Like there’s, there’s a number of of these issues coming into place, uh, which are conserving gross sales slightly bit elevated and stock falling in Florida. So stock remains to be up 8%, 8.5% yr over yr nationwide, however that was, you understand, stock a yr in the past has grown by 30%.
Dave:
Proper. Yeah.
Mike:
And so it’s now down to eight%. And on the cur- if the present traits maintain, we may very well be destructive yr over yr by June. We may have stock shrinking.
Dave:
Proper. I do know. It’s wild. It, it simply makes you snicker about all these, like, doom and gloom issues that we’re saying during the last couple years that we’re gonna see this huge explosion of stock. I feel, uh, on this present, we’ve been slightly bit extra measured and perhaps that’s proving right. However I, I feel that, you understand, that phenomenon is tremendous attention-grabbing and necessary for our viewers as a result of it tells us rather a lot about, like, the place the housing market may be going, which I wanna ask you about. However earlier than we do, the very last thing, simply on the pure stock facet, new listings are down, proper? Are you seeing that as nicely, that fewer persons are posting new properties on the market?
Mike:
In our information, weekly new listings are actually about the identical as they were- Flat. … a yr in the past.
Dave:
Okay.
Mike:
Within the final two weeks with the deep freeze and storm- Yeah. … they dipped under final yr. That’s completely widespread in February. Like storms occur, and so you will get, like, if the storm occurs in January, then l- you’ll get the dips earlier. However generally, exterior of that climate, uh, I’d say that they’re about the identical as they have been, uh, a yr in the past, perhaps, you understand, inside a number of % plus or minus.
Dave:
Yeah. The market is adapting in the way in which that, to me, logically is sensible, proper? This isn’t … We’ve moved to a purchaser’s market, so to see, in, in numerous markets, to see sellers select to not promote is sensible, proper? Like, particularly given the recency bias
Mike:
Yeah. Our outlook for the yr is that as a result of stock’s up and affordability improves not simply mortgage charges, however, you understand, earnings’s rising sooner than dwelling prices- Yep. … in many of the nation, like, that approves affordability, that leads us to forecast a couple of 5% gross sales progress in 2026, 5%, not big, however slightly bit. Yeah. And within the weekly information, the weekly pending information, it’s been, uh, been popping out, proper, three, 5, 8% enhancements over final yr, like I mentioned, with the dip for the storm for the primary week, final week, however, however generally, it’s been averaging about three, 5% extra. In order that, in my opinion, bears out our forecast. A yr in the past, the alternative was taking place. So we saved coming in just below, you understand, and a yr in the past, mortgage charges have been 100 foundation factors higher- Yeah. … than they’re now. And so we have been lacking on the forecast numbers every week.
And so this, this yr, they’re, they’re coming in proper, proper the place they should, to have a, a full yr of, of beneficial properties. It might, you understand, we checked out eventualities of, like, what would it not take to have an enormous acquire yr? Yeah.
Dave:
What would
Mike:
It take to have, like, a ten% progress yr in dwelling gross sales? And a bunch of issues must align on the similar time to make that occur, like, you understand, mortgage charges dip perhaps into the fives within the first quarter right here.
Dave:
Yeah.
Mike:
That type of factor would transfer. But it surely’s additionally, it’s not simply that, it’s additionally the roles market, unemployment’s nonetheless comparatively low, and the most recent numbers, you understand, present it simply looks as if it’s truly dipping. The quantity that I’m, that I care about actually for the yr is the hiring fee. So though unemployment’s low, corporations are hiring at a fee that is- Yeah.
… rather more like a deep recession. I do know, it’s bizarre. It’s bizarre, proper? They’re holding on- Yeah. … all people’s, like, holding onto the job they’ve and, you understand, it’s like, if I needed to promote my home in Chicago to maneuver to Denver, however I’m afraid about getting a job in Denver, I’m delaying that transfer. And so I’m not promoting in Chicago and I’m not shopping for in, in Denver. So if hiring fee ticks up throughout the yr, perhaps, you understand, you get some Fed fee cuts, you get a, no matter, you get AI funding issues, regardless of the issues are, hi- if hiring charges enhance this yr, I imagine that may have a cascading impact right down to the housing market- Yeah. … permit folks to go like, okay, now I can lastly transfer out of Ohio and, and go to Texas the place I’ve been desirous to go for some time.
Dave:
Attention-grabbing. Yeah. And I suppose that in all probability simply extends past voluntary relocations too, the place corporations are in all probability not hiring folks from different states and asking them to relocate to a brand new location, which, uh, we see that within the migration information now too, that it’s, it’s slowing down typically.
Mike:
Yeah. And migration information is slightly tough as a result of it’s lagging. Yeah. It’s, you understand, backward trying, however all of it exhibits rather a lot much less migration, you understand, 24 and 25 actually, uh, down migration in locations like Tampa with truly out migration, destructive. Um, I, I might anticipate Tampa flips round this yr and really comes again to optimistic progress on the, on the migration facet as a result of we didn’t have any hurricanes final yr. Folks have a brief reminiscence.
Dave:
Yeah. We gotta take another fast break, however we’ll be proper again. Stick to us. Welcome again to On The Market. I’m Dave Meyer, joined as we speak by Mike Simonsen. Let’s bounce again into our dialog. Mike, I feel what you’re saying to me sounds encouraging. I do know 5% gross sales progress, flat dwelling costs could not sound like probably the most thrilling factor on the earth to folks listening to this, however you gotta backside out someplace, proper? Like, yeah, if, if the change will get flipped, I feel that’s a superb signal. We’re not gonna get, in my opinion, some dramatic restoration abruptly. And if that comes, it’s in all probability as a result of one thing unhealthy has occurred within the economic system. Like, you understand, if mortgage charges drop to 4%, it’s as a result of one thing unhealthy has occurred, or if we see an enormous inflow of provide, it’s as a result of unemployment’s popping up. You recognize, like one thing not good is occurring.
And so it’s irritating. It’s arduous to be affected person whenever you’re on this business for 3 or 4 years and it’s simply type of stunk. However, you understand, the truth that issues are transferring in a optimistic path and are not getting worse is an effective signal, I feel.
Mike:
I feel so. And, and the way in which we’ve described it’s actually, it’s type of the, the following period of the housing market. Within the final period, the final 4 years has been extremely low gross sales, however affordability is type of relentlessly getting worse.
Dave:
Yeah. Yep. Mm-hmm.
Mike:
And we’re now, we now have adequate stock in many of the nation the place gross sales can climb, like in Florida proper now, but additionally costs are flat or down, that means incomes rise sooner than dwelling costs, that means affordability will get to enhance for the primary time in a few years.
Dave:
Yep.
Mike:
So you could have the following period, which is permits gross sales to extend and enhancing affordability, the place the final period was the alternative of that. Gross sales have been low and affordability saved getting worse. Yeah. So in that sense, you understand, that, that subsequent period is underway and it might be a number of years of that the place it’s slight progress in gross sales every year- mm-hmm. … which might be, you understand, a progress market. I’ll take something we are able to get.
Dave:
Precisely. That’s the sentiment we’d like round right here.
Mike:
And, and, and likewise with the affordability enhancements, you understand, not a- Yeah. … not a worth cor- not a serious worth correction, however, however slowly yearly getting an enchancment on affordability slowly will get us again into line the place truly issues must be, proper, for, for affordability for the median earnings household.
Dave:
100%. I imply, I, you understand, we’ve talked about this earlier than. I’ve labeled this in, within the greater pockets neighborhood, we’re calling it the nice stall. Prefer it’s not, you understand, it’s not this dramatic factor, however we now have to see dwelling costs stagnate slightly bit, I feel, to get again to a wholesome market. And to, the one manner we get affordability is both costs, you understand, you could possibly have a dramatic occasion like a crash, which nobody needs, proper? The affected person method is, yeah, actual dwelling costs are destructive. They’ve been destructive for some time now. And only for everybody listening, which means not the worth you see on Zillow or Compass, you understand, like that’s the nominal dwelling worth. Which means not inflation adjusted. However by most measures, you understand, everybody’s received totally different information. We’re someplace between zero and a pair of%-ish up yr a yr, one thing like that.
Inflation this, this previous yr was two and a half-ish % in direction of three. Wage progress, related, proper? And so whenever you mix these issues, affordability is getting higher and not using a crash. And that’s, I feel, personally, I feel that’s what we received for not less than this yr and perhaps even longer. I don’t understand how lengthy you assume this would possibly final, Mike.
Mike:
Oh, I feel it’s in all probability these situations are, uh, underway for a while- Yeah. … can be my expectation. Um, I imply, there may very well be huge catalysts that change issues, but- Positive. … but when you concentrate on it, we’re on this 6% mortgage fee vary and we’d need to have some huge disaster for it to drop dramatically decrease. There are some forces that wanna push mortgage charges down and, however there’s loads of forces which are pushing the bond charges up and subsequently mortgage charges up too. So I don’t see something within the information that means an enormous crash in, you understand, an enormous dip in mortgage charges. Yeah. Mortgage charges are inconceivable to forecast. Sure. Like they may go up, they may go down, uh, however, however, uh, I haven’t seen any indication of dramatically down but both. If we have been to get the unfortunate and get some inflation information or the roles market heats up or one thing, mortgage charges may push the opposite path.
Dave:
Sure, that’s right.
Mike:
And that may, I feel we’d have instant correction on prices- Yeah. … and slower gross sales. I feel, you understand, no matter restoration we now have proper now could be constant, but additionally very fragile.
Dave:
Yeah. I feel simply psychologically, there’s clearly the financial component of it, however psychologically, I don’t assume anybody, if we noticed six and a half, six and three quarters once more, it, it will damage. You recognize, individuals who’ve been sitting on the sidelines, I don’t assume they’re gonna be capable of justify that. So I’m with you. I feel from an investor standpoint, it means lock in what you may as we speak and underwrite offers as we speak. However as an investor, I like these situations. It’s simply extra predictable than it’s been within the final couple years. There’s nonetheless a ton of uncertainty. However I simply really feel like 23, 24 was identical to peak uncertainty. Nobody knew, like, may rates of interest go down 1% subsequent month? Possibly. Might they go up 1% subsequent month? Possibly. Now it’s like not less than the variance is smaller. You recognize, the fluctuations are smaller and that simply makes shopping for a house really feel rather more approachable to me.
Whether or not you’re a house owner or an actual property investor, stability, I feel is sort of a good place for us to be.
Mike:
Yeah. I imply, you understand, that’s proper. Such as you wanna be capable of underwrite your deal and if it, if it pencils out at mortgage charges within the sixes, then it pencils out. If it doesn’t, you’re not, you don’t wanna make the deal since you’re hoping it’s gonna fall. You recognize, and then again, when you begin a deal and it’s at six, and by the point you’re completed with the deal, it’s at seven and a half, that doesn’t assist anyone.
Dave:
Yeah. And I feel from, from my seat, you understand, I, I simply am having fun with the truth that you don’t must make these break up second choices anymore on a deal. Like you may give it some thought for every week or two. You may go go to it. You’ll be able to have your property supervisor and your contractor within the constructing earlier than you go and write a suggestion. These are the situations I feel as an investor, I respect. However I might think about that interprets to householders too once we speak about dwelling promote quantity. You recognize, the years of simply writing affords sight unseen, I don’t miss it in any respect, though there was loopy appreciation. I don’t miss that in any respect. Yeah. I personally would moderately one thing like this the place it’s just a bit bit extra balanced. Um, so thanks, Mike, for, for sharing all this data with us.
Earlier than we get out of right here, another insights you could have together with your work at Compass or stock information you wanna share with the, in the marketplace neighborhood?
Mike:
Properly, I do assume that this withdrawn and re-listings phenomenon is the information to observe every week this spring.
Dave:
Okay.
Mike:
If we’re seeing the relists come again in, which we’re, if it’s not com- accompanied by a rise of demand and the demand, you understand, numbers, that’s the bearish state of affairs. Mm-hmm. However as of proper now, it’s, they’re each, we see the relist and we see the demand coming again in and that, so that’s bearing out the speculation that these are typically owner-occupiers.
Dave:
Mm-hmm.
Mike:
Typically two transactions ready to occur. And if we’re fortunate, which means there’s numerous two transactions and it truly interprets into good progress for dwelling gross sales within the first and second quarter.
Dave:
Nice perception, Mike. Thanks. See, for this reason we gotta have you ever on. You recognize, I realized one thing very new. I assumed it was flippers and buyers and studying that adjustments my opinion about this slightly bit. So Mike, thanks as all the time, all the time nice perception data. We respect you being right here.
Mike:
At all times nice to see you, Dave.
Dave:
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